Dealer just told me GM requires nitrogen!

[Thrailkill]

Just as an FYI for future knowledge.....it cost the dealership (sales department) not even $75 to have those front two windows tinted. In my former years I was the service advisor that handled all of the internal work orders, i.e. window tint, accessories, etc. and it literally cost us $40 to have the front windows tinted on a truck/SUV and then we marked it up to right around $75 to charge the sales department. If it has a "lifetime" warranty on the tint, though, you're really paying for that and not so much the window tint.

On my AT4X I bought last month, I paid $399 for window tint (which I'm going to get darker in the back) and door edge guards, which is essentially paint protection on the door edges and under the handles. Might've cost the dealership $150 for all of it.

Trust me I know they pay way less with their contracts, my wife works in a big dealerships main office processing the deals and see all the mark ups.
But Rivard was still cheaper than around here and I didn't have to drop it off at the tint shop to get it done... so kinda a win win for me lol

 

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[bigrackHack]

I have a couple of tire shops. The air you're breathing is 78% Nitrogen. We don't sell Nitrogen because it's a scam. If they're giving it away, take it. Otherwise, tell them where to put it.

 

[jakrbt]

Trust me I know they pay way less with their contracts, my wife works in a big dealerships main office processing the deals and see all the mark ups.
But Rivard was still cheaper than around here and I didn't have to drop it off at the tint shop to get it done... so kinda a win win for me lol

There's no way in Hell I'd EVER go back to working in the auto industry. I'd go work at McDonald's or Taco Bell first

 

[Whaler27]

I have a couple of tire shops. The air you're breathing is 78% Nitrogen. We don't sell Nitrogen because it's a scam. If they're giving it away, take it. Otherwise, tell them where to put it.

Yes. And when the bead sets/seals on the tire as it’s being filled, the tire contains air at ambient pressure of between 14 and 15 psi… Unless they are pushing or sucking all that air out (they aren’t) and replacing it with truly 100% nitrogen (they aren’t) the tires probably end up with about 92% nitrogen instead of 79% nitrogen. It’s a joke, and if I were them I couldn’t charge for it with a straight face.

And air is not “flammable, although the ~19% oxygen in it supports burning (obviously).

The guy who sold me my truck was about 75 years old. Super nice. I did the whole thing over the phone and a mail. He knew very little about the truck and he was honest about it. He had a script he was supposed to follow, and I politely told him all the things I wasn’t going to do, including loading the GMC app which he was told was “required”. I said “No thanks. I’m not loading any apps. I’m just here to pay for the truck and go home.”

Total time at the dealership was about 30-40 minutes, and it wouldn’t have been that long, but the sales manager refused to enter the transaction until I was physically at the dealership. In fact, getting them to confirm the out-the-door price beforehand was like pulling teeth, as they didn’t want me showing up with a check and bypassing the F&I guy trying to sell me $2,000 lifetime oil change package, insurance, and undercoating.

 

[Josh_O]

My truck will be in soon so I asked for a complete price breakdown. It included $50 for nitrogen. When I said please keep the nitrogen and green valve stem caps. The salesman came back with "Unfortunately all new gm vehicles are required by the manufacturer to have nitrogen in the tires there's nothing we can do about that".

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10174300-9999.pdf

Unless that's the only GM dealership around you, I'd go elsewhere.

Earths atmosphere is 78% nitrogen. You would be paying for 22% more nitrogen, if that.

Absolutely unnecessary unless it's a race application or aviation application.

 

[phobby]

I’d walk if they didn’t take it off. I’ve had the conversation with a few dealerships about BS they added from $250 for 4 locking lugs, tint, nitrogen, steps, ceramic coating, etc.

Unless it was shipped with it on the build sheet, take it off or No Deal. I won’t sign the paperwork if they don’t remove their sticker off the back.

I almost walked on my last truck bc the idiots screwed the front vanity plate bracket into the bumper just to hang the dealer plate.

 

[Viking Truck]

I almost walked on my last truck bc the idiots screwed the front vanity plate bracket into the bumper just to hang the dealer plate.

There is no way I would have accepted that vehicle.

 

[phobby]

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There is no way I would have accepted that vehicle.

I made them fix it, took it off and they had a paint touch up guy make the 2 holes disappear.

 

[Sdakota24]

Rivard GMC in Tampa FL. Like I said, after I called him on it he backed down to "every vehicle we sell here gets nitrogen and $50 fee".

I was talking with Rivard last week about an AT4! Even says Nitrogen on their website. Something about that place seems fishy to me.
Rivard gives a straight 9% discount off MSRP and then add $1,200 in fees. I also live in SD and would have added the $1,600 shipping cost. So I decided to not deal with them anymore.

I was able to get 8.4% off MSRP and only $150 in dealer fees from an instate dealership. Adding the Rivard fees and the shipping, it was cheaper for me to get my truck elsewhere.
I hope it works out for you, red is a sharp color on the truck.

 

[phobby]

Florida dealers are Scam central. I bought a 2021 in FL; they new I was coming down with a check to buy it on a Saturday, tow hooks were not installed, no floor mats, no fuel, no def, just lazy as hell.
Took 4 hours to hand them a check as they made me go through the extended warranty crap and they tried to talk me into financing a paid for truck. And some BS tracker theft system bc apparently nothing can stop vehicles being stolen off their lot.

Florida is one of the few states that has no cap on document and prep fees. Most states have laws in place that caps the crooked dealerships fees.

 

[Whaler27]

Unless that's the only GM dealership around you, I'd go elsewhere.

Earths atmosphere is 78% nitrogen. You would be paying for 22% more nitrogen, if that.

Absolutely unnecessary unless it's a race application or aviation application.

Not even 22%, because they tire is full of air at ambient pressure s soon as the bead sets. If they do it at all, they only add nitrogen until the desired pressure is reached. If that’s 60psi, about a quarter of the total gas volume in the tire is air. My guess is the tire would go from ~79% nitrogen to about 95% nitrogen. As we’ve all agreed, it’s a service of zero value. Zero. I’ve worked a zillion car wrecks, and the tiny amount of oxygen in the tires is of zero concern/relevance.