hell gm does not warranty tires anyway they are only the middle man if you have an issue, tell them to "go pound sand"
Dealer just told me GM requires nitrogen!
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ironworker40
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It's all a money grab. Your not going to get them to remove it. The have it on every car on their site.
It does not work I tried it a few years back it made zero difference in psi swings
It does not work I tried it a few years back it made zero difference in psi swings
Billy Shears
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What a load of crap. Nitrogen in a truck tire? YGBSM. We use it on our airplanes (777), but that's because it is required by the FAA; "Since the late 1980s, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has required commercial airplanes to use nitrogen in their tires rather than air or oxygen. Nitrogen keeps out moisture, protects against corrosion, promotes consistent pressure and is nonflammable."
Absolutely NO need for it on a vehicle.
Absolutely NO need for it on a vehicle.
Whaler27
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Until I bought my AT4X (day before yesterday) I was going back and forth between it and hard-to-find diesel Ford Tremors. I found several of the Fords in Florida, and I don’t mind traveling for a deal, so I inquired. Both dealers I spoke to had enormous “doc fees”. They also had vehicle “prep fees” (which I have never heard of). One of them required “in house financing” in order to qualify for the advertised price. They were slimy as can be. I complained about them on the Jeep forum I frequent and had many people tell me that car-buying in Florida is like that — and to run, not walk, from the idea of buying a vehicle in Florida.
Doc fees didn’t exist until about thirty years ago. The first time I saw one added to our negotiated price was about 1992. I objected and it was removed.
The actual document processing takes the gals in back about ten minutes per vehicle, if that. That administrative burden is part of their business cost, like their janitorial service or electric bill, and it is lower than the cost of the bookkeeping work required to get a bill from your mechanic, dentist, attorney, doctor, or gas company, but none of them tack on a “doc fee” for preparing your bill. In the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s car dealers didn’t do it either. It’s all BS and, now that they have been getting away with it for years, people expect to pay it.
The solution? Buy somewhere else. Leave Florida. Buy one at Beaverton GMC in Oregon. They advertise $5,000 off MSRP on the HD AT4X AEV, their made-up BS fees are less than $250, and you can just bring a check. I did the whole thing over my phone and spent less than 30 minutes at the dealership when I picked it up. I bought my Raptor from Yankee Ford in Portland Maine six years ago. It was a similar experience. Run from the BS and buy at a dealer that doesn’t lie. Then you can enjoy a fun cross country trip on the money you saved dodging the lying cheaters in Tampa.
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I paid 10k over MSRP at Beaverton GMC in Oregon fro my HD AT4X AEV five months ago; how things change in a matter of months. Could have waited and saved 15k I know but my old 1999 expedition xlt suv was getting really old and I needed something realible to drive in the snow; supply and demand and price for being first in line. No regrets though except Beaverton GMC in Oregon attitude once I drove off their lot.
myrez
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Sounds like there's a story there.
Island Dan
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If you insist on not paying for the nitrogen they may remove it and charge you the shop fee at 150+ an hour to have somebody do it. There's a reason everyone hates dealerships lol.
Even before I reached home (300 miles north of OR) I had suspension bouncing issues on highways not smooth as glass, and when I reached out to the Beaverton GMC in Oregon to help towards of change tires since OEM ones had flat spots from factory (confirmed by a local dealer, not unusual) and they did not want to assist in any way. Even GMC refused to accept responsibility and made maximum effort (now though the local dealer) to prove it was not the tires but somethong inherent to the design. I replaced all five tires at my own expense and although the problem did not completely go away, it is 90% better and tolerable.
myrez
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That's complete crap. Not much customer service left these days.
I outright refused this and a couple other fees right at the final stages. They refused too. My wife and I got up and put on our jackets. The sales rep asked, "your going to back out on a $90 000+ (CAD) truck over a $110 in fees?". My wife replied, "you should ask yourselves that question".
We walked towards the door and they recanted. We didn't pay any BS fees and got the truck.
We walked towards the door and they recanted. We didn't pay any BS fees and got the truck.
That last sentence is the perfect one to use. If you ever get the opportunity to use it on a dealer it absolutely makes them look like fools. You will win every single time.
Audioi
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Odd, my 2024 AT4 didn't come with green caps...
Thrailkill
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Not saying they won't come off some of thier fees, but they didn't for me.
Thye tint the front two windows for 150.00 which is way cheaper than I could get done in SC and they did sell me a 2024 for 15k less than I could get one anywhere else.
So the 1500.00 or so I paid for fees and 120.00 I paid for plane ticket to FL was well worth it.
Also hit me up if you are still looking into decked boxes
Thye tint the front two windows for 150.00 which is way cheaper than I could get done in SC and they did sell me a 2024 for 15k less than I could get one anywhere else.
So the 1500.00 or so I paid for fees and 120.00 I paid for plane ticket to FL was well worth it.
Also hit me up if you are still looking into decked boxes
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jakrbt
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Just as an FYI for future knowledge.....it cost the dealership (sales department) not even $75 to have those front two windows tinted. In my former years I was the service advisor that handled all of the internal work orders, i.e. window tint, accessories, etc. and it literally cost us $40 to have the front windows tinted on a truck/SUV and then we marked it up to right around $75 to charge the sales department. If it has a "lifetime" warranty on the tint, though, you're really paying for that and not so much the window tint.
On my AT4X I bought last month, I paid $399 for window tint (which I'm going to get darker in the back) and door edge guards, which is essentially paint protection on the door edges and under the handles. Might've cost the dealership $150 for all of it.
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