Are there any volume GMC dealers offering well below MSRP?

Bill Smith GMC in Alabama is about $9K below MSRP with the $2750 gmc incentive and 6K dealer discount. I had a deposit on one in transit but ended up in a bind because I sold my vehicle and had to hurry and buy one on the lot. I know Laura GMC is talked about a lot when speaking of volume dealers, but they were not close to the Bill Smith price. I was dealing with Leon as my salesman and he was very helpful and responsive.
 

I bought my 24 2500 AT4 from Laura GMC last June…at the time there was NO discounts whatsoever and Laura wouldn’t honor my GMC Suppliers discount ..so I paid full sticker (76.5k) for my truck.
 

I bought my 24 2500 AT4 from Laura GMC last June…at the time there was NO discounts whatsoever and Laura wouldn’t honor my GMC Suppliers discount ..so I paid full sticker (76.5k) for my truck.
It’s amazing what a difference a few months can make. U.S. vehicle manufacturers have always overproduced the market. With few exceptions (like a few specialty sports cars and trucks), the time window of demanding full MSRP and/or additional dealer markup is short, because the manufacturers eventually build enough to tip the balance in favor of increasing inventories. Trucks sitting on car lots cost them money, so the deals start flowing and, with time, rebates, promotional financing, and other incentives start appearing.

A couple cautionary notes: Before I bought my HD AT4X AEV diesel I considered buying a similarly equipped Ford Tremor. I couldn’t find any nearby, so I searched nationally and found several at a large dealer in Tampa. The advertised prices were good, so I was interested and I started digging for the total “out the door price”. They had a ridiculous list of expensive add-on charges and requirements I had to pry out of the salesman. The advertised price did not include the $995 “doc fee*”, a “prep fee” of several hundred dollars (above the dealer prep on the monroney sticker), and it didn’t mention other dealer add-ons nobody should ever pay for. To get the advertised price you also had to finance the vehicle through the dealer (because that’s worth another few thousand bucks). I didn’t want or need any of it.

* “doc fee” is a dealer invention that arrived in the early 90s and spread across the country like wildfire. Apart from the DMV fees and sales tax, which are always listed separately, the actual cost of processing the paperwork for vehicle sale is about 8 to 10 minutes of clerk-time. Assuming slow, old, distracted clerks with ample breaks, a clerk can still process three or four of these transactions per hour. If the clerks are paid $40 per hour (they aren’t), and they get another $20 per hour in benefits (they don’t), the maximum cost per transaction for the dealership is about $20. It probably averages closer to $10 per vehicle. It’s ridiculous to charge $200 for that, much less $995 as the Tampa dealer does.

When the “doc fees” first appeared on my sales contract they were small, I refused to pay them, and the dealership removed the fee. Thirty years later they are “standard”. How do you think the dealership sales manager would react if his doctor/lawyer/dentist/electrician started tacking on a doc fee at the end of his bill? The doctors and dentists have about twenty times the paperwork associated with each transaction, and their billing team has to keep generating bills on the same account for months. Why don’t they charge for that? The answer is they do. It’s just part of the pricing structure, as it always has been in the car business. The car dealers just decided they wanted even more profit. They couldn’t modify the legally required factory Monroney sticker and “additional dealer markup” sounds bad, so they inserted things like “doc fees”, undercoating, nitrogen filled tires, and other imaginary benefits.

Before long we’ll see “detail fees”, “janitorial fees”, and “electricity surcharge” to pay for dealership lighting at night…. Sheesh.
 

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I first started my new truck journey with Rivard GMC in Tampa, FL. They clearly stick out on auto trader as one of the lowest. I decided to get my feet wet talking with a dealer I wouldn’t care if I pissed off. The price is 9% off MSRP but they have $1,200 in fees and I would have had a $1,600 transport fee to South Dakota.

Next I spoke to Laura GMC In Missouri
(Straight 6% off) and had it penciled out to be about same price to order one and fly down to pick up.

I was about to call and make that deal but I was searching high and low comparing to solidify I was getting a “good deal.”

I found a a truck pretty identical to what I would order in Northtown GMC in Yankton, SD. They were advertising 4% off MSRP and GMC had $1,500 off if you financed with them. They also only had $148 dealer fees and no BS.
$77,030 I got for $71,178 including fees
(7.6% off MSRP)

I took the deal under conditions;
- it was detailed
- had a full tank of gas
- remove dealership sticker
- nobody else drive it

I went to pick up and it was in middle of the show room. Another guy was buying a new Colorado that was in the showroom and was so excited. I was congratulating him and after he drove off my wife drove ours out.
 

I first started my new truck journey with Rivard GMC in Tampa, FL. They clearly stick out on auto trader as one of the lowest. I decided to get my feet wet talking with a dealer I wouldn’t care if I pissed off. The price is 9% off MSRP but they have $1,200 in fees and I would have had a $1,600 transport fee to South Dakota.

Next I spoke to Laura GMC In Missouri
(Straight 6% off) and had it penciled out to be about same price to order one and fly down to pick up.

I was about to call and make that deal but I was searching high and low comparing to solidify I was getting a “good deal.”

I found a a truck pretty identical to what I would order in Northtown GMC in Yankton, SD. They were advertising 4% off MSRP and GMC had $1,500 off if you financed with them. They also only had $148 dealer fees and no BS.
$77,030 I got for $71,178 including fees
(7.6% off MSRP)

I took the deal under conditions;
- it was detailed
- had a full tank of gas
- remove dealership sticker
- nobody else drive it

I went to pick up and it was in middle of the show room. Another guy was buying a new Colorado that was in the showroom and was so excited. I was congratulating him and after he drove off my wife drove ours out.
That sounds like a good deal.

I bought my truck from Beaverton GMC near Portland, Oregon and paid $5000 off the Monroney sticker plus a $295 BS “doc fee” and no other dealer charges. That’s less than 5% off, which isn’t great, but my time is worth something, I had been shopping a long time, and the truck I bought was exactly what I would have ordered. (It was inbound from Michigan, so I had to wait about ten days to get it.)
 

That sounds like a good deal.

I bought my truck from Beaverton GMC near Portland, Oregon and paid $5000 off the Monroney sticker plus a $295 BS “doc fee” and no other dealer charges. That’s less than 5% off, which isn’t great, but my time is worth something, I had been shopping a long time, and the truck I bought was exactly what I would have ordered. (It was inbound from Michigan, so I had to wait about ten days to get it.)
Lucky you. I paid $10,000 over for the same truck from the same dealer. Sticker was $105,540, paid $115,540 less $3000 trade for my old ford expedition + $12,409 Registration/WA tax, doc fee, trip permit (bought in OR and driving back to WA) etc. $124,949 out of the door.
Then added tonneau cover, changed all 5 tires plus a bunch of other stuff and not stopped yet, all for a bit of fun. No regrets :D
 

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My sticker was $77,400. I got it for $69,965 plus sales tax from Rivard. To be honest I wasn't impressed with my salesman but I dont have to deal with him anymore
Over 9% off is pretty good,That was before the $1,200 fees? Same price I was looking at but with the doc and shipping for me wasn’t so cheap anymore. The guy I spoke to was telling me about the nitrogen fee and other bs doesn’t make a guy want to buy from them. I believe Florida may have the highest fees in the country. However you got your truck and don’t have to go back.
 

Over 9% off is pretty good,That was before the $1,200 fees? Same price I was looking at but with the doc and shipping for me wasn’t so cheap anymore. The guy I spoke to was telling me about the nitrogen fee and other bs doesn’t make a guy want to buy from them. I believe Florida may have the highest fees in the country. However you got your truck and don’t have to go back.
$1200 fees? Yikes. Florida seems to be the center of craziness. And the nitrogen scam seems to mostly played out in other states. Not may people see value in paying to increase the tire nitrogen content from ~80% to ~95%, especially since it will gradually return to ~80% through several cycles of airing up and down offroad.
 

Yup the fees and BS nitro fill is aggravating, but even after that I still could not find a better deal out the door than Rivard in Tampa. So that's how I justified it to myself.
 

Yup the fees and BS nitro fill is aggravating, but even after that I still could not find a better deal out the door than Rivard in Tampa. So that's how I justified it to myself.
I hear ya and I found that to be true had it not been for shipping to South Dakota. But you still hate buying from someone with the bs fees.
 

Called Laura GMC, got an out the door price including having it delivered to my door. Called my local dealer’s general manager and asked him to match it which he did. No BS, no games, no cheesy dealership stickers on the truck, easy peasy

Laura GMC is going to be the lowest price you can find. They charge $385 doc fee in addition to the listed price on their website. And then another charge if you want running boards (I wonder how many people even notice the trucks on their website have no running boards).

The big downside to me was having to go to the local dmv to do the paperwork and transfer my tag from old truck to new truck (another reason their prices seem lower is they don’t include sales tax for an out of state sale, but you will pay that when you register it in your state). So I was glad local dealer matched them (after accounting for sales tax.) Their delivery fee I think takes away most of the savings vs local dealers, assuming you can get past all the game playing with the local

I have 2 local dealers and have bought from both of them before. I called them both and told them I’d bought from both before, buy a new truck every five years and wasn’t interested in playing games. The first dealer started playing games with BS charges and the other dealer simply matched Laura without any questions or drama. Which one do you think got the sale?
 

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