myrez
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Yup, I realized that as soon as I hit post reply.
Best three peak AT tire
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Amateurhour
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I need something tall and skinny to fit in the 1/2 tons little wheel well, like a 285/75 or 35/11.5 the mickey ts tend to the shorter and wider
Wheel size?
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Whaler27
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I have not owned the Baja Boss AT or the Wildpeak AT4W, but I can enthusiastically agree/endorse the Grabber ATX, BFG KO2, and the Toyo AT3 for all around snow/ice winter use (if you don’t want to run studded tires). I understand the KO3 is very similar to the KO2.
My winter preference is the studded Duratrac, as the tread is sufficiently open to evacuate water when hitting deeper puddles at highway speeds, so it’s not prone to hydroplane, and the studs provide great traction on ice.
The worst ice traction I have ever experienced, bar none, is the Toyota MT. I’ve had those on HD trucks and jeeps, and they are good, durable, tires that wear well and perform well in deeper snow and mud, but they are truly awful on ice. That tire on ice is like trying to run on polished concrete with football cleats. (My truck couldn’t make it up my driveway with the MTs, even with weight in the back, all four tires spinning, and the help of momentum. My wife had no trouble at all slowly crawling up the drive in her grand cherokee with KO2s, and I had no difficulty as soon as I swapped to the studded Duratracs.
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myrez
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The Grabbers are pretty cheap too.
I have owned about 12-14 sets of Nitto's over the last 10-12 years. A mix if Terras and Ridges. I started off with the Terra'a and then switched to the Ridge Grapplers for the more aggressive look. I purchased a truck that has the Mickey Thompson BB's on it. 33x12.50x20. I think I will never go back to Nitto!!! I currently have 40k miles on them and will most likely get another 10-15k out of them easy. They are quieter, ride better and like most said above, they have better traction in the snow and ice.
100% correct Mickey Thompson are amazing in snow, ice and dry too. Driving through the dangerous sea to sky highway is a breeze in any weather.
Teegunn
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I am about a month into my new MT BB's. 295/60 r 20's. So 34.3" tall, 11.5" width at the tread.
The tires are nearly a half inch taller than my same size Nitto RG's. They are also at least 5 lbs heavier per tire. The tread is much more substantail - deeper tread and just larger overall. In snow/ice that are worlds better than the Nitto RG's.
I like how they ride, feel and road noise is minimal for a beefy tire like this.
I will say that for sure my MPG has gone down significantly with these tires vs my same size Nitto RG's. At least 3 MPG less, which is a lot. Did not expect that. It is a little difficult to truly gauge the MPG difference since I put these MT BB's on in December with winter driving conditions here in MT. But even on hwy/interstate on clear roads, the MPG is just lower. Which sucks, but having a much better traction 3 peak tire does not suck. I attribute the decreased MPG to the added weight per tire, and the tread profile just having much more traction. Adding 5 lbs per tire makes a difference. These are basically almost 35" tires - a lot of 35x12" tires are more like 34.5" in actuality. And these weigh about the same as most 35x12 tires, too.
I have really come around on the looks - these MT BB's look nice and aggressive. Nitto RG's are hard to beat for looks, but these come close. Just wish the MPG's didn't take such a hit.
I am driving the 6 hr drive from MT to SLC monday, to get on a flight for 10 days visiting family in the Florida Keys, so I will get a better idea of hwy MPG on that trip, although it looks like some true winter weather driving conditions, so still hard to get an apples to apples comparison on how these tires would stack up on the MPG's vs the Nitto RG's. I think I have enough evidence already (1000 miles on the tires) to know that I took a hit on MPG's. Which stinks because of this measly 24 gallon tank on our AT4's - reduces the trucks already paltry range.
A taller tire will appear to give less mpg although it actually makes little difference; this is due to an increase in tire circumference. Although not an exact science, factors affecting are also rolling resistance (tire weight and contact patch), psi etc. For a more accurate mpg, divide actual known distance (not from your speedo, try google etc.) by fuel consumed, you'll find its not as bad as you think.
Teegunn
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I am a MPG guy, and have it down the the hundreth on the tire size difference between what the truck was set up for stock vs the taller height on whatever tire I put on vs stock.
On my Nitto RG's, I took what the DIC said for miles driven per fill up and used 1.045 to multiply. For the MT BB's, which are taller, the RPM makes that number 1.055. So I do take all of that into account. For sure the MT BB's are getting worse MPG. Is what it is, and for winter driving it is worth it. I believe the Nitto RG's use a harder rubber than the MT BB's, but do not know that for sure. The rolling resistance is likely higher on the MT BB's, plus the added weight per tire does make a difference. Just more meat to turn, which reduces MPG's
A little price to pay for safety. Being used to larger gas engines in my previous SUVs and now this 6.6L diesel truck, I care more about driving range than MPG; I like the fact I can get close to 500 miles on a 38gal tank of diesel although I've considered installing an extended tank if we start driving deeper across the border in BC Canada.
Teegunn
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I've always had V8 engines in my trucks over the years. I also always do a lift or at least level on my trucks, plus custom wheels and larger tires. So I understand doing those things will take a bite out of MPG's. Also as a contractor, pulling misc job trailers/flatbeds, I don't really use those times for MPG, although I do figure out what the MPG's are per tank even when towing a lot.
For a true MPG test, good weather driving while not towing is the best comparison. I will know more on my 6 hr drive to SLC on Monday for the MT BB's, but I have already had numerous drives of 100 miles or so on these tires on fairly clear hwy/interstate, and the MPG is just lower vs the Nitto RG's. I know what I got with the Nitto's in the same weather/temps/conditions and I have seen the lower MPG's in these same conditions since I have had the MT BB's installed.
The peace of mind with a MUCH better winter conditions tire is worth it. Living above 6000' in one of the coldest mountain areas of the lower 48, plus living on an actual mountainside - I have a lot of experience with these winter conditions to compare with. I just with these 1500 AT4's had at least a 28 gallon tank. I literally almost ran out of gas last week as I forgot to fill up my truck before I left a job I finished. I knew I needed to fill up in the town I was in as I knew I was low on fuel. But I forgot to fill up in that town, and the 35 mile drive, hwy/interstate, almost didn't get me to the next place to fill up. I put in 24.67 gallons of fuel once I got to the next gas station - these trucks have a 24 gallon fuel tank, lol. I know they hold about a gallon more than stated, so I was REALLY pushing it. I was past the half-way point on this drive and it didn't make sense to turn around back to where I should have filled up. Was sweating bullets a bit that last few miles. Was pulling my large enclosed job trailer which really cuts my MPG down to about 7 or 8 MPG at 65 hwy speeds. I made it, but dang , it was close!
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I got a set of Wildpeak AT4W on mine. I loved the AT3W's that I had on my Silverado (2 sets actually). I live in MN and deal with all conditions, both on the asphalt as well as on the lake when I go ice fishing. The AT3W's were insanely good on the lake with the snow and ice. Haven't had any real chance to test them in the snow as we've had almost no snow all winter here, and now my rig is in the shop for an engine replacement. But while I did use them on dry pavement, they rode well and were quiet for me
