Unbelievably Slow Charging Sources

[Kicker0927]

Hey all. I have a 2023 Sierra 1500 AT4 and I’m wondering if anyone has any knowledge about the possibility of swapping out the absolutely worthless OEM USB-A and USB-C ports with upgraded fast charging ports? I work a lot from the road and these ports don’t even keep my laptop charged. My 120v outlet is already in use by something else and GM dumped the 12V outlets on the 2023. Also curious if it’s possible to swap out the garbage wireless charger for something that can actually charge the phone with some type of speed. And no, Boost Auto Parts doesn’t make a wireless charger replacement for the models with the wireless chargers under the armrest. Has anyone installed a 12v lighter socket? Pics? Location? Im not real mechanical so is there a type of shop that would do these things? I didn’t even think about testing these things prior to purchase IN 2023!!! Any recommendations? TIA

Thanks!

 

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[4X4 Limo]

A decent stereo shop should be able to wire in what you want.

 

[yzf1999]

Could you plug in a multi 120v receptacle…that way you could use multi 120v devices. I highly doubt you would draw too many amps.

 

[rick25s]

Hey all. I have a 2023 Sierra 1500 AT4 and I’m wondering if anyone has any knowledge about the possibility of swapping out the absolutely worthless OEM USB-A and USB-C ports with upgraded fast charging ports? I work a lot from the road and these ports don’t even keep my laptop charged. My 120v outlet is already in use by something else and GM dumped the 12V outlets on the 2023. Also curious if it’s possible to swap out the garbage wireless charger for something that can actually charge the phone with some type of speed. And no, Boost Auto Parts doesn’t make a wireless charger replacement for the models with the wireless chargers under the armrest. Has anyone installed a 12v lighter socket? Pics? Location? Im not real mechanical so is there a type of shop that would do these things? I didn’t even think about testing these things prior to purchase IN 2023!!! Any recommendations? TIA

Thanks!

You need some custom wiring, like the other comment replier said. Go to a car stereo shop. Make sure they get power off the battery and not just by using fuse taps.

Phone chargers are slow for a reason. Fast chargers destroy lithium ion batteries in phones. Charging a battery is like filling a glass with Pepsi: Pour slow and you can fill the glass. Pouring fast destabilizes the product and nothing settles in. The battery indicates full, but the electrons are so sparse and scattered, it won't take any more electrons, and doesn't discharge exactly like it's supposed to. Continuously charging like that, not only affects the performance of the battery, but tears down the life of the battery to probably around 20%. Fast chargers are a marketing ploy with no regard to you or the product (phone, whatever) you paid a lot of money for.

Worthless USB....Garbage Phone charger.... Both are far from that. Those things work perfectly for everything I, my wife, and three daughters have plugged in simultaneously. What you're saying is your 16" Stihl chainsaw is complete crap because it won't saw straight through a 24" diameter tree.

If you do try an A/C splitter, make sure you add up the amperage draw that both devices use and make sure it's not exactly at, or higher than the maximum amp draw on the truck outlet. All those values are printed on the devices (by law).

 

[Viking Truck]

I used this combination in my Jeep wired to a fuse tap. It won't draw much current at all. You could find a place to drill/mount in the dash or just leave the wire loose from underneath the console.

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[Kicker0927]

You need some custom wiring, like the other comment replier said. Go to a car stereo shop. Make sure they get power off the battery and not just by using fuse taps.

Phone chargers are slow for a reason. Fast chargers destroy lithium ion batteries in phones. Charging a battery is like filling a glass with Pepsi: Pour slow and you can fill the glass. Pouring fast destabilizes the product and nothing settles in. The battery indicates full, but the electrons are so sparse and scattered, it won't take any more electrons, and doesn't discharge exactly like it's supposed to. Continuously charging like that, not only affects the performance of the battery, but tears down the life of the battery to probably around 20%. Fast chargers are a marketing ploy with no regard to you or the product (phone, whatever) you paid a lot of money for.

Worthless USB....Garbage Phone charger.... Both are far from that. Those things work perfectly for everything I, my wife, and three daughters have plugged in simultaneously. What you're saying is your 16" Stihl chainsaw is complete crap because it won't saw straight through a 24" diameter tree.

If you do try an A/C splitter, make sure you add up the amperage draw that both devices use and make sure it's not exactly at, or higher than the maximum amp draw on the truck outlet. All those values are printed on the devices (by law).

Maybe my expectations are too high, but my previous 2021 RaM would fully charge my iPhone in like 45min from dead. I took an hour and half drive the other day and the wireless charger in my GMC charged my phone 3% and the dealer says it’s functioning properly. The USB-C ports in the GMC aren’t much better

 

[Stang]

I think they all suck. My F150 and Titan Pro4X both sucked at changing as does my AT4. I guess Dodge has the only good one.

 

[Ohiost90]

I took an hour and half drive the other day and the wireless charger in my GMC charged my phone 3% and the dealer says it’s functioning properly. The USB-C ports in the GMC aren’t much better

Was there a load on the phone during this time? This hasn't been my experience at all. Either with the wireless charger or the USB-C. I do use my USB-C more often as I find it a faster charger and it keeps charging if I need to pick up my phone for some reason.

I will do some testing on my own as I'm curious about my results.

 

[Kicker0927]

Was there a load on the phone during this time? This hasn't been my experience at all. Either with the wireless charger or the USB-C. I do use my USB-C more often as I find it a faster charger and it keeps charging if I need to pick up my phone for some reason.

I will do some testing on my own as I'm curious about my results.

Well, there’s always load on the phone due to wireless CarPlay

 

[Ohiost90]

Well, there’s always load on the phone due to wireless CarPlay

I meant GPS Navigation, streaming audio, or some other process

my results on wireless for a 34ish minute drive was a charge from 59% to 77%
no apps running except connected to wireless carplay and other background apps.

Of course, comparing percentages isn't exact due to different sizes in batteries will not accurately reflect how much "energy" was transferred. But unless the batteries are vastly different in size, it makes for a good "back of the envelope" comparison.

Next time I plan on being in the truck again for 30 + minutes, I plan to do the USB-C test.

 

[Kicker0927]

I meant GPS Navigation, streaming audio, or some other process

my results on wireless for a 34ish minute drive was a charge from 59% to 77%
no apps running except connected to wireless carplay and other background apps.

Of course, comparing percentages isn't exact due to different sizes in batteries will not accurately reflect how much "energy" was transferred. But unless the batteries are vastly different in size, it makes for a good "back of the envelope" comparison.

Next time I plan on being in the truck again for 30 + minutes, I plan to do the USB-C test.

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My USB-C ports are massively underpowered as well. Nothing in this truck is fast charging. However, today I went to the Apple Store and purchased a 35w fast charger brick that has two USB-C ports on it and fits perfectly in the 120v outlet under the armrest. The thing is blazing fast, but you have to plug the phone in. My phone charged 3% before I could pull out of the parking lot and that was while it was connected to CarPlay and streaming music. I’m just pissed that it’s 2023 and these manufacturers are still using these slow ass ports.

 

[Ohiost90]

glad that brick worked out for you. I'm running a 22 HD. maybe that is the difference. who knows, I tried finding how many amps these ports are putting out but couldn't find it.

 

[rick25s]

Maybe my expectations are too high, but my previous 2021 RaM would fully charge my iPhone in like 45min from dead. I took an hour and half drive the other day and the wireless charger in my GMC charged my phone 3% and the dealer says it’s functioning properly. The USB-C ports in the GMC aren’t much better

I see. 45 minute charge isn't really that fast, and not damaging like those 15-20 minute fast chargers like I thought you were expecting. Sorry about that assumption. Did the ram use wireless CarPlay? Wireless CarPlay is a major battery drain because it's using both WiFi and Bluetooth heavily. Even a good 2amp charger has a hard time keeping up with that.

I actually know a car sound shop owner and talked to him about this. He said if you need more power than stock will offer, you can get reasonably priced system that will give you that power. He generally installs them for the guys with all the annoying speakers and subwoofers. It gets wired off the battery, and it charges a dry cell battery mounted under the dash, seat, or I think he said in the engine compartment. That dry cell gives you the sustained power when you need it, and charges off the alternator at the same time. He said that will give you all the power you need.

 

[Stuart]

These post are funny, I'm always waiting for the "Ram is so much better" line. My charger ports seem to charge pretty damn fast and the C charges old IPad in an hour of so.

 

[Kicker0927]

These post are funny, I'm always waiting for the "Ram is so much better" line. My charger ports seem to charge pretty damn fast and the C charges old IPad in an hour of so.

I love my AT4, but there are a couple things I loved more about the RAM. I tested the charging ports in the truck and there’s a YT video out there doing the same. gM used the slowest oldest type ports you could put in a vehicle right now.